Comments on: An Honest Question to Clinton Supporters

By: MsJoanne

MsJoanne — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:01:55 +0000

Terri, please tell me what a Marxist is. How do you define it? And is Obama a Marxist or a socialist? How do they differ in your mind?

How are Obama and Clinton on opposite ends of the spectrum? In which aspects are you referring to?

I think, perhaps, that you missed the fact that we are, and have been, at war with Afghanistan for more than five years now.

The only taxes Obama will raise is for those making greater than $250,000 which apparently you fall under and are angry about. If I made $250k I would happily pay more taxes. Alas, I do not make that much. But good for you that you do.

I look forward to your reply.

By: Terri

Terri — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:28:43 +0000

The easiest way to understand WHY Clinton supporters would vote McCain is this: Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are at opposite ends of the spectrum on economy and healthcare (although Obama has stolen HRC’s IDEA of medical records being made electronic) he is always stealing others ideas and trying to make them his own. Hillary is NOT a MARXIST and OBAMA is! He will raise all taxes, and this can easily be googled by citizens for far taxation show actual charts, he is a liar and a thief, and not even a CITIZEN of the US, this is now in court and hopefully will be fully out before November, he preys on the weak and empty who are looking for the government to give some sort of value to their meaningless lives, he has a HISTORY of ANTI AMERICAN connections, including the mentor who PAID for him to attend HARVARD LAW SCHOOL, this man HATES all WHITES…IF Obama is elected I look for the economy to be in a depression, for people to be out of work, more homeless, higher murder rates, war with Pakistan and Afganistan, and socialist radical values in the schools and racially motivated hate crimes….YES, it will be CHANGE all right! CAN’T wait to see how the LIBERALS deal with it then!

By: Alexis Nectar

Alexis Nectar — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:17:20 +0000

I am equally perplexed by anyone who would support Clinton but then make the outrageous leap to voting for McCain in protest of Obama winning the nomination. As a Clinton supporter, I cannot fathom how one could make the leap from Clinton to McCain. Agree with all that Clinton would make an excellent addition to the Supreme Court. Further agree that, even if you’re not a huge Obama fan, think of who McCain will place on the Court. I firmly believe that the only reason Justice Ginsburg has chosen to remain on the Court (rather than retire) is to prevent the nomination of yet another Justice who follows the selective originalism of Scalia or the outright conservative legislation of Thomas.

And don’t even get me started on the GOP thinking that putting Palin on the ticket is the equivalent of getting Clinton in the White House. That is just utterly insulting.

By: Alix F

Alix F — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:53:18 +0000

I wrote an answer to this question a few months ago:

http://withoutparty.typepad.com./without_party/2008/06/when-is-it-goin.html

Thanks for wanting honest dialogue. I appreciate it.

By: Jason

Jason — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:58:24 +0000

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If you want to repost your comment not in ALL CAPS, that’s fine. Don’t scream at me or my readers.

MsJoanne

By: Susan Powers

Susan Powers — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 23:14:35 +0000

Yes, she would be great on the supreme court. I would still like her to have the big prize. I would love to see how our country would go forward because of her leadership. I guess it really isn’t about who is best for the job, dang it. There goes my naiveté again.

By: MsJoanne

MsJoanne — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 23:07:17 +0000

Understood.

I wasn’t putting that there just for you. I saw it this morning and was going to put it up, but your post prompted me to do so.

It’s all YOUR fault! (snicker…just kidding!)

The post above is one of the reasons I would love to see HRC on the SCOTUS. It’s decisions like Ledbetter which is giant strides backwards in women’s rights. And we need all the help we can possibly get. O’Connor retiring was a huge blow. I seriously fear for the direction of the SCOTUS should McCain (or any Republican) have the chance to add any more justices.

It’s bad enough they are all corporations all the time. Women don’t need to have to take a back seat to the corporation first, then the man, then the children, then the dog, then, then, then….

By: Susan Powers

Susan Powers — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 23:03:08 +0000

As I said, I cannot in all good conscience vote for Obama or McCain.

By: MsJoanne

MsJoanne — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:53:17 +0000

Susan, I respect your decision. As I said before, you have to vote your conscience.

I read this today and thought I would post it, so I am not posting this to you, per se, but in general.

This is from The Carpetbagger Report:

David Greenberg, the president and CEO of Planned Parenthood in Oregon, had an especially good item this week on the subject.

John McCain is one of only a few Senators to earn a Zero percent lifetime rating from Planned Parenthood’s Action Fund, and he only scored that high because the organization doesn’t have a lower rating…. Let’s look at his record:

He voted against requiring health care plans to cover birth control (3/22/03).

He voted against comprehensive, medically accurate sex education (7/25/06).

He voted against international family planning funding (3/14/96).

He voted against funding to prevent teen and unintended pregnancies (3/17/05).

He voted against public education for emergency contraception (3/17/05).

And he voted against restoring Medicaid funding that could be used for family planning for low-income women (3/17/05).

NPR reported (2/2/08 ) that, “Many Republican voters seem to believe, incorrectly, that the current Republican front-runner, Arizona Senator John McCain, supports abortion rights.”

John McCain wants us to believe that he’s a moderate who supports improving the health of women in the United States, but in fact he’s among the most extreme members of Congress who voted against common sense measures on family planning, sex education and access to basic healthcare.

In contrast, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton agree on all of these issues.

This stunning post by Steve Benen at The Carpetbagger Report should give every woman who might consider voting for McCain great pause.

And this from one of the posters:

McCain and the Repubs obviously don’t support equal pay for women. The Lucy Ledbetter case proved that. McCain’s response was an empty slogan “Women need education and training” ignoring the fact that she had the “education and training” yet was being paid less than men who were hired after her. When the Senate tried to amend the offending Act the Repubs blocked it and Bush said he would have vetoed it anyway. The fact that Goodyear cheated Lucy out of thousands of dollars in compensation and violated Federal Law all those years was ignored by the Conservatives on the Court and the Repubs in Congress. Apparently Conservative ethics hold that it’s OK to cheat someone as long as they don’t know they are being cheated. And suing to get money owed to you is a “frivolous” law suit. These are the ethics of thieves and swindlers and there are at least five of them on SCOTUS.

Great pause indeed.

By: Susan Powers

Susan Powers — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:47:34 +0000

I was just verbalizing to my husband my concerns. I have questioned why my views are what they are. Yes, I am a woman and it made me ill that mass media could be so disgustingly prejudiced against Hillary Clinton and for Obama but that just led to soul searching and looking at facts. I cannot vote for Obama, he does what is politically expedient for him to do at the time to further himself (the church, the people that surround him, what he says and then changes what he says, yes, words matter and so does motive and experience). Then there is the whole super delegate thing, is this any worse than what has happened in the past (election’s) where the president was picked for us? The big question is WHY is all this happening? There are people in power that create situations for a bigger reason and they do this under the assumption that the general US population will go for it (9-11 and the Project for the New American Century Iraq et al)I cannot in all good conscience vote for Obama and I cannot vote for McCain. I will not vote in this presidential election unless something happens large enough to make me change my mind, but in that scenario I would not be voting for Obama or McCain, there would have to be another choice.