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		<title>By: MsJoanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>MsJoanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good lord, why?

Republicans screwed up the economy.

They led us into two wars.

They stripped away how many jobs?

Why on earth would ANY thinking person ever vote Republican?

Nope, sorry...no voting Republican for me.  Not now.  Not ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good lord, why?</p>
<p>Republicans screwed up the economy.</p>
<p>They led us into two wars.</p>
<p>They stripped away how many jobs?</p>
<p>Why on earth would ANY thinking person ever vote Republican?</p>
<p>Nope, sorry&#8230;no voting Republican for me.  Not now.  Not ever.</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
		<link>http://livefrankly.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/mccain-v-obama-healthcare-proposals/#comment-762</link>
		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vote for Republicans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vote for Republicans</p>
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		<title>By: McPale's Navy</title>
		<link>http://livefrankly.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/mccain-v-obama-healthcare-proposals/#comment-717</link>
		<dc:creator>McPale's Navy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joanne. hang in there. just wanted to say (sorry, couldn&#039;t find a direct contact link so you can delete this after you read it) you&#039;re not alone. every little fight is worth fighting as much as it may be frustrating. your message gets out to everyone and anyone who is willing to listen. big hugs for all you do and believe in! we will make a difference!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joanne. hang in there. just wanted to say (sorry, couldn&#8217;t find a direct contact link so you can delete this after you read it) you&#8217;re not alone. every little fight is worth fighting as much as it may be frustrating. your message gets out to everyone and anyone who is willing to listen. big hugs for all you do and believe in! we will make a difference!</p>
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		<title>By: MsJoanne</title>
		<link>http://livefrankly.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/mccain-v-obama-healthcare-proposals/#comment-712</link>
		<dc:creator>MsJoanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All you have to say is Embryonic Stem Cell research and I will guarantee that there is no way ANY GOP candidate is going to back it.  

Thank you for your comment.  Very insightful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you have to say is Embryonic Stem Cell research and I will guarantee that there is no way ANY GOP candidate is going to back it.  </p>
<p>Thank you for your comment.  Very insightful!</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Clifton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy Clifton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How are the presidential candidates going to make cancer a national priority?  When it comes to the subject of umbilical cord blood which has been proven to be very successful in UCB transplants for patients with 70 different diseases including cancer, are they going to help to educate expecting parents on how important it is to donate their baby&#039;s umbilical cord blood in order to bring up the numbers of units being stored in the public cord blood banks. Currently, there are 80,000 units stored and 150,000 units are needed in order for UCB to be available for transplants for everyone who is in need!  Please do not confuse UCB with embryonic stem cells, they are entirely two separate entities.  Are either one of the presidental candidates even know what UCB is and what it is used for?
Judy Clifton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are the presidential candidates going to make cancer a national priority?  When it comes to the subject of umbilical cord blood which has been proven to be very successful in UCB transplants for patients with 70 different diseases including cancer, are they going to help to educate expecting parents on how important it is to donate their baby&#8217;s umbilical cord blood in order to bring up the numbers of units being stored in the public cord blood banks. Currently, there are 80,000 units stored and 150,000 units are needed in order for UCB to be available for transplants for everyone who is in need!  Please do not confuse UCB with embryonic stem cells, they are entirely two separate entities.  Are either one of the presidental candidates even know what UCB is and what it is used for?<br />
Judy Clifton</p>
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		<title>By: Les</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try the simple preventitive for some autism, schizophrenia, bipolar of men being urged to father babies in their 20s and early 30s. Have any of the candidate thought of that. A test for mitochondrial disorder is called for that could be given to a very young baby would be an additional idea. Throwing money at autism research will not help because genes of sperm mutate with age and voila bipolar, autism or/an schizophrenia result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try the simple preventitive for some autism, schizophrenia, bipolar of men being urged to father babies in their 20s and early 30s. Have any of the candidate thought of that. A test for mitochondrial disorder is called for that could be given to a very young baby would be an additional idea. Throwing money at autism research will not help because genes of sperm mutate with age and voila bipolar, autism or/an schizophrenia result.</p>
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		<title>By: MsJoanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>MsJoanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a very insightful comment posted over at TheZoo by gorn by any other name:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama’s plan is far from the ideal, but it is lightyears ahead of McCain’s plan. McCain’s plan is truly just more of the same discredited approach. As usual, his “ideas” are tactical and not strategic. The man has never shown any capacity for visionary or strategic thinking, ever, in his entire career.

As to this:

“You will get a tax credit of up to $5000. That is not money in your pocket, it is a credit taken on your tax return.”

Hopefully people understand that this is regressive. A $5000 tax credit saves you $2500 on your taxes if you’re at a 50% tax bracket, $1400 if you are at the 28% tax bracket, $750 if you are at the 15% tax bracket, and nothing at all if you’re too poor to pay taxes in the first place. It is impossible to imagine how such a plan can do anything at all to address the crisis at hand - a crisis that does not impact the wealthy, barely touches the upper middle class, and is most profound for middle class / working class, the poor, and small businesses.

If the average health insurance costs (including premiums, copays, and deductibles) for family coverage is $12,000 per year, it isn’t exactly exciting to have $750 of relief.

Of course, Republicans don’t care about that, but they do like to think of themselves as the party for business. Most business is small business, and many, if not most, small businesses struggle for years just to break even, much less produce sufficient profit for the owner to take home a salary. Thus, this kind of plan disincentivizes entrepreneurship and neighborhood small businesses because a tax break gives no help for those first few years of business ownership. Worse, the existing system makes starting a business very risky because sole proprietors typically cannot obtain a group medical plan (at least until they have enough employees to qualify), and thus are at risk of being dropped by an insurance carrier and not picked up by any others, or only at extortionary premiums with poor coverage. The fact that Republicans don’t get that proves that they are not the party of business, but rather the party of big corporate interests, which is a very different thing.

Both plans, I think, miss out on the fact that a major factor behind health care cost escalation is the role played by intermediate insurance carriers, coupled with the fact that employee-provided health care effectively shields the majority of Americans from the real costs, and consequently the real inflation of those costs. This allows cost bloating to go on behind the scenes, largely unchecked. For example, a worker may be paying a $75 per month premium when the real cost is more like $1000. The company tries to contain cost increases for the employees from one year to the next by moving to a lower quality plan with lesser coverage, more exclusions, or higher copays, or by reducing that year’s pay increases or other benefits, or by eliminating older workers from the payroll, whose higher costs drive up the overall group premium. None of these steps do anything to contain the total net costs of healthcare in the US, but thanks to these maneuvers going on year after year, the the majority of employees don’t see the real inflation either directly or fully. This makes healthcare inflation a lower priority than it should be on their list of concerns.

Republicans would have us believe that healthcare cost escalation is due to frivolous lawsuits (really a minor factor) and whining, never-happy working class people.

The real solution is to (a) get rid of the middleman - private insurance companies; (b) remove the employers from the equation so that each individual sees the actual costs directly; (c) give everyone equal access, including the unemployed and the self-employed.

It’s way too radical an approach to have any kind of chance any time soon. It’s about as likely as having either a black man or a woman in the Executive.

Oh, wait a minute. Maybe there is some hope in my lifetime after all.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a very insightful comment posted over at TheZoo by gorn by any other name:</p>
<blockquote><p>Obama’s plan is far from the ideal, but it is lightyears ahead of McCain’s plan. McCain’s plan is truly just more of the same discredited approach. As usual, his “ideas” are tactical and not strategic. The man has never shown any capacity for visionary or strategic thinking, ever, in his entire career.</p>
<p>As to this:</p>
<p>“You will get a tax credit of up to $5000. That is not money in your pocket, it is a credit taken on your tax return.”</p>
<p>Hopefully people understand that this is regressive. A $5000 tax credit saves you $2500 on your taxes if you’re at a 50% tax bracket, $1400 if you are at the 28% tax bracket, $750 if you are at the 15% tax bracket, and nothing at all if you’re too poor to pay taxes in the first place. It is impossible to imagine how such a plan can do anything at all to address the crisis at hand &#8211; a crisis that does not impact the wealthy, barely touches the upper middle class, and is most profound for middle class / working class, the poor, and small businesses.</p>
<p>If the average health insurance costs (including premiums, copays, and deductibles) for family coverage is $12,000 per year, it isn’t exactly exciting to have $750 of relief.</p>
<p>Of course, Republicans don’t care about that, but they do like to think of themselves as the party for business. Most business is small business, and many, if not most, small businesses struggle for years just to break even, much less produce sufficient profit for the owner to take home a salary. Thus, this kind of plan disincentivizes entrepreneurship and neighborhood small businesses because a tax break gives no help for those first few years of business ownership. Worse, the existing system makes starting a business very risky because sole proprietors typically cannot obtain a group medical plan (at least until they have enough employees to qualify), and thus are at risk of being dropped by an insurance carrier and not picked up by any others, or only at extortionary premiums with poor coverage. The fact that Republicans don’t get that proves that they are not the party of business, but rather the party of big corporate interests, which is a very different thing.</p>
<p>Both plans, I think, miss out on the fact that a major factor behind health care cost escalation is the role played by intermediate insurance carriers, coupled with the fact that employee-provided health care effectively shields the majority of Americans from the real costs, and consequently the real inflation of those costs. This allows cost bloating to go on behind the scenes, largely unchecked. For example, a worker may be paying a $75 per month premium when the real cost is more like $1000. The company tries to contain cost increases for the employees from one year to the next by moving to a lower quality plan with lesser coverage, more exclusions, or higher copays, or by reducing that year’s pay increases or other benefits, or by eliminating older workers from the payroll, whose higher costs drive up the overall group premium. None of these steps do anything to contain the total net costs of healthcare in the US, but thanks to these maneuvers going on year after year, the the majority of employees don’t see the real inflation either directly or fully. This makes healthcare inflation a lower priority than it should be on their list of concerns.</p>
<p>Republicans would have us believe that healthcare cost escalation is due to frivolous lawsuits (really a minor factor) and whining, never-happy working class people.</p>
<p>The real solution is to (a) get rid of the middleman &#8211; private insurance companies; (b) remove the employers from the equation so that each individual sees the actual costs directly; (c) give everyone equal access, including the unemployed and the self-employed.</p>
<p>It’s way too radical an approach to have any kind of chance any time soon. It’s about as likely as having either a black man or a woman in the Executive.</p>
<p>Oh, wait a minute. Maybe there is some hope in my lifetime after all.
</p></blockquote>
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